"So What Are You Going to Do with That?": Finding Careers Outside Academia, Third Edition

So What Are You Going to Do with That Finding Careers Outside Academia Third Edition Graduate schools churn out tens of thousands of PhDs and MAs every year Yet than half of all college courses are taught by adjunct faculty which means that the chances of an academic landing a tenure

  • Title: "So What Are You Going to Do with That?": Finding Careers Outside Academia, Third Edition
  • Author: Susan Basalla Maggie Debelius
  • ISBN: 9780226200408
  • Page: 311
  • Format: Paperback
  • Graduate schools churn out tens of thousands of PhDs and MAs every year Yet than half of all college courses are taught by adjunct faculty, which means that the chances of an academic landing a tenure track job seem only to shrink as student loan and credit card debts grow What s a frustrated would be scholar to do Can she really leave academia Can a job outside tGraduate schools churn out tens of thousands of PhDs and MAs every year Yet than half of all college courses are taught by adjunct faculty, which means that the chances of an academic landing a tenure track job seem only to shrink as student loan and credit card debts grow What s a frustrated would be scholar to do Can she really leave academia Can a job outside the academy really be rewarding And could anyone want to hire a grad school refugee In this third edition of So What Are You Going to Do with That , thoroughly revised with new advice for students in the sciences, Susan Basalla and Maggie Debelius PhDs themselves answer all those questions with a resounding Yes A witty, accessible guide full of concrete advice for anyone contemplating the jump from scholarship to the outside world, So What Are You Going to Do with That covers topics ranging from career counseling to interview etiquette to how to translate skills learned in the academy into terms an employer can understand and appreciate Packed with examples and stories from real people who have successfully made this daunting but potentially rewarding transition, and written with a deep understanding of both the joys and difficulties of the academic life, this fully updated guide will be indispensable for any graduate student or professor who has ever glanced at his or her CV, flipped through the want ads, and wondered, What if

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    1. When I first picked this book up from the library, I was disappointed. "Sure is a slender book," I thought. "How much advice could they possibly impart in so few words?" The answer: a lot.This a great book for academics who are contemplating "life on the outside," er, I mean "a post-graduate career." Part advice, part self-help, the two authors had left the academy and in the process discovered how to transition into a new career. They are honest in their bias: they aren't going to talk about al [...]

    2. To some extent just this book existing is enough to skew my rating high. It feels like the authors are sitting me down with a coffee and a pat on the back and telling me all the things I want to hear e.g. it's all going to be OK. Apparently there is a life outside of academia and it's rewarding and even fun.I have no idea if the practical advice is any good, but the authors have nailed my emotions about feeling I'm not good for anything in the Real World.3.5 stars, rounded up.

    3. This is a guide to career-changing for MAs and PhDs - a how-to on how to get out of academia, salvage your identity, and actually get a worthwhile job.which is exactly what I needed when I read it. Very comforting for the bruised ego of anyone undergoing a voluntary exit from academia and the painful reprogramming that necessarily accompanies this transition. If you never could imagine your life outside academe, this book will help re-expand those devastatingly narrowed horizons. The most valuab [...]

    4. This little book provides a constructively realistic pep talk for smart folks exiting the ivory tower. It offers a helpful mix of illustrative anecdotes (about ex-scholars who broke into various industries) and big-picture reality checks (about academic and non-academic job markets). It also provides good concrete tips for self-reflection, as well as for finding and applying to jobs. Overall, both informative and encouraging. I'd recommend it to any disillusioned grad student or burnt-out adjunc [...]

    5. "Intellectuals don't lose their abilities the moment they step off campus. The talents that made you successful in academia can propel you into the post-academic world. Strong, independent thinkers can't help carving out interesting careers."Really helpful book for thinking about and applying for post-academic careers. Lots of concrete, useful tips as well as big picture ideas. Much of the information on specific jobs is anecdotal, but it kinda has to be. There's not a single path out of academi [...]

    6. I made this transition three years ago and wish I'd read this book at the beginning of that process. People leaving the academy can find most of this advice in other places, but it's especially nice to have a guide tailored to this specific audience. For example, explaining how to write an effective resume by contrasting it with a CV.It's especially nice to read the profiles of people with PhDs, or who left without finishing their dissertations, happy and successful in a wide variety of careers. [...]

    7. A great intro into looking for jobs outside of academia. It certainly helped me to consider my own skills and knowledge in a new light and hopefully it will help me better while transitioning from academia into the industry and more conventional jobs. Highly recommended.

    8. This book covers the basics that academics need to begin a transition out of the academy and into the "real world." The tone is encouraging and supportive and they provide examples of people who have made the transition successfully and demonstrate how they accomplished that. My only complaints about the book are that it is too focused on graduate students and that the portion of the text on negotiating is pretty slim. Frequent references to "your university's career center" ignore the reality o [...]

    9. For the past few years, I have been a huge proponent of the second edition of this book -- I recommend it to my grad school colleagues almost every time career planning comes up -- and I am delighted that the newly released third edition is even better. This time around, Basalla and Debelius make a conscious effort to seamlessly weave in profiles of natural and physical scientists alongside the profiles of humanists and social scientists who have gone on to successful careers outside academia. T [...]

    10. Really enjoyed the briefness of topics and focus on the softer side of things. Also the strong emphasis on your own search and how to conduct it was highly useful. I started scribbling on cafe napkins to jot down ideas and start off some of their mental exercises which work on trying to pinpoint the type of career you want without consciously realizing.I skimmed through a few sections rapidly as they weren't immediately pertinent to me (I'm not an MA or a PhD student but work very closely with t [...]

    11. A quick read that posed some interesting questions for those thinking about leaving academia. The chapter on Information Interviews was most interesting to me, as it was a concept I wasn't familiar with. However, the book's repeated stereotyping of academics as socially awkward individuals who "would rather read than eat, sleep, or socialize" (p.56) was annoying and often, the book simply felt out of touch with the reality of grad school, or at least, my experience of grad school, in which stude [...]

    12. I find the first half of the book rather mundane - sure a lot of people might relate to the agonies of academia. That's probably cos I didn't contemplate for too long to stay in there. The later half, on the other hand, is a practical guide to all the do's and don't's in a job search - that's where I am currently. Although it significantly overlaps with the second half of 'lean in' - it is definitely useful to have such advice now and then. It's not a leisure bedtime book, but the one to sit in [...]

    13. I don't remember where I heard about this book, but I'm surprisingly glad I got a copy from the New York Public Library. The authors do their level best to translate the job-hunting process for nerds who have been in the ivory tower a little too long to be entirely comfortable with schmoozing my only wish is that the next edition include a chapter about whether "informational interviews" and "networking" ever stop feeling so *#$@ dirty, and how to make peace with their grossness if they never do [...]

    14. Read this. The authors of this book deal in both information and hope! This is something many grad students need. Basalla and Debelius do a great job addressing the concerns, ranging from the psychological to the practical, specific to graduate students and academics thinking of leaving the fold. They outline the specific steps you should take to start figuring out your next move- and that is quite empowering. They successfully shatter the myth that folks with academic propensities will be 1) us [...]

    15. Encouraging survey of job-hunting possibilities for career-changers with advanced degrees and graduate students who are second-guessing their academic vocations. Especially helpful: (1) reassurance that the most appealing elements of "the life of the mind" that drew a person to grad school in the first place CAN be replicated in a wide range of post-academic careers; (2) profiles of post-academic careers, demonstrating the high capacity that graduate alumni generally have for advancement and car [...]

    16. This is such a fast read, and it shows that there is a light at the end of the road--all of those years slaving away at abstract concepts can actually be used to land a job; what a novel idea!! Basalla provides numerous accounts, mostly from humanities, of doctoral candidates who flee academia to search for work else where. Often, the reasons we stay are merely psychological: "quitting" is failure. Perhaps, what we should be looking at is how much has been accomplished: a bachelor's, a master's, [...]

    17. For those who find themselves with a Ph.D. and no academic job, or deciding that an academic job is not for them, this is an excellent "what the heck do I do now" book. It gives you ideas of transferable skills and how to translate your often endless CV into a one page resume. Though it's not the end-all, be-all of employment advice, it does provide a good start for those thinking of changing careers. It also provides a lot of examples. Seriously, the examples alone are worth it.

    18. What I have gained in this book is not really much!I found it not suitable for me because it mentioned most about PHDs and MAs. The lessons of interview is repeated from other books. What I noticed is the difference between the CV and resume.Resume is in a higher standard that focuses on employer's needs. However, as analyzing the CV and breaking it into segments, I think I should focus more on the skills I have gained rather than the requirements of the job.

    19. I was pleasantly surprised by this book. I started reading it warily, expecting it to be a guide on how to enter into the business world (which I wasn't interested in). Instead the people they interviewed ranged from midwives, to astrologists, to screenwriters, and, yes, some business people. Especially helpful was the section on how to rewrite a CV into a resume and how to represent your current skills in a way that fits the job you are looking for.

    20. It is a good starting point for those thinking on leaving academia or at least asking themselves if academia is their right place. It provides some good insights of the non-academic jobs and interesting stories of some people who made the transition. However, sometimes it seems quite exaggerated in the comments about academic people.

    21. I love the title. It's been the most annoying question in the past 5 years. I think I'm sticking with academia, but this book helped me come to terms with that and I think its useful to always be aware of other opportunities. If nothing else, it helps me avoid that trapped feeling and lets me realize I'm choosing this path, rather than having it forced on me.

    22. Lots to think about. Highly recommend for anyone either currently pursing graduate studies, or academic careers in research and teaching. The enlightening realization that the world outside might be more interesting than we admit? One doesn't have to be an 'academic' to feel stimulated, challenged, and fulfilled?

    23. What an encouragement! I'm not the only person who felt unshackled when I decided for a life outside of academia! I'm not the only person who lost friends because they feel like I am joining the hoi polloi and casting off the only true calling because I work in computer software and not the dead languages.

    24. This is the book for people who have set themselves up to be professors and researchers, people who have wanted to remain in Academia for their careers. and then decide nope! It's all about taking your background in Academia and making it transferable skills to other careers. It's invaluable, a must read!

    25. This is a very, very useful book for academics considering a career change--before or after earning their graduate degree. It has practical advice on self-exploration and self-understanding, informational interviews, resumes, and interviewing, including lists of books and websites that can provide even more help and direction. A great place to start if you're stuck.

    26. Really great careers advice book on finding a job outside of academia post-PhD (or post-Masters). Mostly geared to an American audience, and written a while ago now so perhaps a bit dated, but for the most part I found it very helpful. (FYI - I'm in a US PhD program and plan to return to the UK to work outside academia upon completion).

    27. The message is to use your strengths to find an appropriate job - if I hadn't already proactively explored job opportunities, then this book might have been more revelatory, but it just comes off as a scattered hodgepodge of accounts Not terribly useful

    28. A really useful and straightforward book for people with postgraduate degrees who are considering a nonacademic career. The book includes a lot of tips and resources, as well as real-life examples of M.A.s and Ph.Ds who have found interesting and fulfilling careers outside academia.

    29. It seems more geared to current grad students than to people who've already finished grad school. Most of the advice is pretty helpful, though. I found the tips on how to transform an academic CV to a resumé very useful.

    30. I think all grad students should read this book, because it offers some career advice that looks at both academic and nonacademic jobs, without taking a position. It outlines how some of your academic skills can translate into nonacademic careers.

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